Mac'nCheese
Apr 24, 10:33 AM
Black-on-white crime, much more prevalent than the reverse, is one of those open secrets the media doesn't like to report on, usually since they're too busy accusing whites of racism.
The media always reports on black on white crime, so much so, that they are often accused of over-reporting and fueling white people's fear of the big bad black man!
The media always reports on black on white crime, so much so, that they are often accused of over-reporting and fueling white people's fear of the big bad black man!
blipmusic
Apr 18, 04:06 AM
Any have a guess guess what this might mean for the 11"? Will that have to be even more of a compromise? I'm worried the C2D/320M might be a better option for me if Apple go for Sandy Bridge and have to cut even more corners on the 11" due to even harsher space/energy drain constraints.
If the CPU option for an 11" bump is only a marginal performance increase (*if* Apple choose to bump this summer), the nVidia GPU seems too good to lose.
I can't/don't need to buy right now but it seems I might be good off planning it a bit.
As for the gaming comments, give it up already. Personally, I want *one* (1) computer and I want to to be as portable as possible. That means both work and entertainment, some of that being the occasional game. And I realize it'll be a compromise. I won't buy it for the sake of gaming but why should that stop me from trying a few of them out?
There are a lot of games out there, some being more playable than others on an MBA. Don't expect everyone to "need"/want max detail at native resolution @60fps. I'm fine with fps dips and low/med details. If it plays it plays. It's as if the MBA could only ever do monochrome text games. Can we stop seeing the world in an "either it'll be the best ***** ever, or it'll blow chunks" kind of way? Things are bit more nuanced than that.
I'm wondering if we are underestimating hardware nowadays. To me it looks pretty nice, *especially* at the "low" end.
If the CPU option for an 11" bump is only a marginal performance increase (*if* Apple choose to bump this summer), the nVidia GPU seems too good to lose.
I can't/don't need to buy right now but it seems I might be good off planning it a bit.
As for the gaming comments, give it up already. Personally, I want *one* (1) computer and I want to to be as portable as possible. That means both work and entertainment, some of that being the occasional game. And I realize it'll be a compromise. I won't buy it for the sake of gaming but why should that stop me from trying a few of them out?
There are a lot of games out there, some being more playable than others on an MBA. Don't expect everyone to "need"/want max detail at native resolution @60fps. I'm fine with fps dips and low/med details. If it plays it plays. It's as if the MBA could only ever do monochrome text games. Can we stop seeing the world in an "either it'll be the best ***** ever, or it'll blow chunks" kind of way? Things are bit more nuanced than that.
I'm wondering if we are underestimating hardware nowadays. To me it looks pretty nice, *especially* at the "low" end.
WildCowboy
Oct 18, 07:47 PM
Historical Mac shipments by quarter.
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Thanks for the chart...I always like to see stuff like this. But your 3Q and 4Q numbers for 2003 and 2004 looked a bit fishy, so I looked into it and made the corrections below for 2004. Don't know if there are any other errors.
1Q2000 - 1,377,000
2Q2000 - 1,043,000
3Q2000 - 1,016,000
4Q2000 - 1,122,000
1Q2001 - 659,000
2Q2001 - 751,000
3Q2001 - 827,000
4Q2001 - 850,000
1Q2002 - 659,000
2Q2002 - 813,000
3Q2002 - 808,000
4Q2002 - 734,000
1Q2003 - 743,000
2Q2003 - 711,000
3Q2003 - 771,000
4Q2003 - 787,000
1Q2004 - 743,000
2Q2004 - 749,000
3Q2004 - 876,000
4Q2004 - 836,000
1Q2005 - 1,046,000
2Q2005 - 1,070,000
3Q2005 - 1,182,000
4Q2005 - 1,236,000
1Q2006- 1,254,000
2Q2006- 1,112,000
3Q2006- 1,327,000
4Q2006 - 1,610,000
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Thanks for the chart...I always like to see stuff like this. But your 3Q and 4Q numbers for 2003 and 2004 looked a bit fishy, so I looked into it and made the corrections below for 2004. Don't know if there are any other errors.
1Q2000 - 1,377,000
2Q2000 - 1,043,000
3Q2000 - 1,016,000
4Q2000 - 1,122,000
1Q2001 - 659,000
2Q2001 - 751,000
3Q2001 - 827,000
4Q2001 - 850,000
1Q2002 - 659,000
2Q2002 - 813,000
3Q2002 - 808,000
4Q2002 - 734,000
1Q2003 - 743,000
2Q2003 - 711,000
3Q2003 - 771,000
4Q2003 - 787,000
1Q2004 - 743,000
2Q2004 - 749,000
3Q2004 - 876,000
4Q2004 - 836,000
1Q2005 - 1,046,000
2Q2005 - 1,070,000
3Q2005 - 1,182,000
4Q2005 - 1,236,000
1Q2006- 1,254,000
2Q2006- 1,112,000
3Q2006- 1,327,000
4Q2006 - 1,610,000
Scarlet Fever
Oct 23, 07:57 AM
As if that's going to stop people. Most people don't even know about these usage restrictions.There are usage restrictions? :rolleyes: joking...
seriously, since when have people done as M$ tell you to do? Don't something like 35% of Windows-based computers run illegal copies of the OS?
seriously, since when have people done as M$ tell you to do? Don't something like 35% of Windows-based computers run illegal copies of the OS?
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twoodcc
Oct 16, 11:44 PM
I'm running it on my air as fast as I can... but I'm stuck on this Astropulse thats taking 200 hours to complete :(
are you really folding on an air?
I will have to try it when I get home tonight.
let us know how it goes
are you really folding on an air?
I will have to try it when I get home tonight.
let us know how it goes
Buschmaster
Apr 23, 06:29 PM
Is it possible that they would make a phone that would cover both AT&T's and T-Mobile's bands? AT&T could really combat the coverage problems they've had on the west coast with that, correct?
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FX4568
Apr 19, 04:54 PM
These are all random/nonsensical figures you've made up FX4568. Outside of gaming, there are prescious few apps that will be affected by a 30% decrease in GPU.
This will be even more true as Apple becomes better at optimising for Grand Central dispatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_Dispatch). As an example the new Final Cut Pro X is said to optimise and scale well across all sizes of systems. I'd expect a much faster processor to 'soak up' the GPU drop in this instance.
No. Outside of gaming, a larger proportion of processing is done in the CPU than the GPU, and improving the CPU will yield greater benefits.
You can only really talk for yourself and others in this thread that subscribe to that opinion. What evidence to you have that the majority would notice?
I would expect that most MBA owners aren't hardcore gamers - it's just not that sort of machine. Medium power graphic uses, like productivity apps or watching movies wouldn't be noticeably impacted.
Of course, I don't have any figures to back up that belief either. ;)
Well, I wish I had a program to back up such GPU CPU usage, but I do not, so whether you believe my point is up to you.
I have NO idea as of how GCD affects GPU. The only thing that my mind connected the GDP to a GPU is when the GPU has an Open CL, Open CL is like GDP but not quite. GDP can be summarized as "GCD lifts the programmer from the burden of dealing with shared memory, threads, locks and semaphores which usually results in a great amount of pain." GCD does not direct GPU burden into the CPU. If it did, why doesnt Apple further continue on this technology? Wouldn't it be more efficient to Apple to develop this technology so far that GPUs are obsolete and instead of placing GPUs in a system, they could use extra battery? or extra RAM? GDP only takes advantage of multi core systems, but it certainly does not take the burden of GPU.
If it does, I would honestly like to know, as knowledge is always good.
Yea, I see the point where you are coming from. Neither of us know whether or not MBA owners have bought it for mild gaming or not, but hardcore gamers are certainly not in the radar of MBA buyers. But do not confuse hardcore gamers with games that tend to fall in the "hardcores." Almost all games could be run in MBA, of course few of them wont. But as of 90% of games, the 320M will. Again, do I have numbers to back it up? I certainly dont, but there was a chart somewhere that compared over 30 games with 320m and Intel 3000HD used in MBP 13", and the 13" could play less than the 320m ones. Why do I keep up bringing games as GPU comparisons? Because as my lack of knowledge shows, games are the ones that stress the most out of GPUs in my usage.
This will be even more true as Apple becomes better at optimising for Grand Central dispatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_Dispatch). As an example the new Final Cut Pro X is said to optimise and scale well across all sizes of systems. I'd expect a much faster processor to 'soak up' the GPU drop in this instance.
No. Outside of gaming, a larger proportion of processing is done in the CPU than the GPU, and improving the CPU will yield greater benefits.
You can only really talk for yourself and others in this thread that subscribe to that opinion. What evidence to you have that the majority would notice?
I would expect that most MBA owners aren't hardcore gamers - it's just not that sort of machine. Medium power graphic uses, like productivity apps or watching movies wouldn't be noticeably impacted.
Of course, I don't have any figures to back up that belief either. ;)
Well, I wish I had a program to back up such GPU CPU usage, but I do not, so whether you believe my point is up to you.
I have NO idea as of how GCD affects GPU. The only thing that my mind connected the GDP to a GPU is when the GPU has an Open CL, Open CL is like GDP but not quite. GDP can be summarized as "GCD lifts the programmer from the burden of dealing with shared memory, threads, locks and semaphores which usually results in a great amount of pain." GCD does not direct GPU burden into the CPU. If it did, why doesnt Apple further continue on this technology? Wouldn't it be more efficient to Apple to develop this technology so far that GPUs are obsolete and instead of placing GPUs in a system, they could use extra battery? or extra RAM? GDP only takes advantage of multi core systems, but it certainly does not take the burden of GPU.
If it does, I would honestly like to know, as knowledge is always good.
Yea, I see the point where you are coming from. Neither of us know whether or not MBA owners have bought it for mild gaming or not, but hardcore gamers are certainly not in the radar of MBA buyers. But do not confuse hardcore gamers with games that tend to fall in the "hardcores." Almost all games could be run in MBA, of course few of them wont. But as of 90% of games, the 320M will. Again, do I have numbers to back it up? I certainly dont, but there was a chart somewhere that compared over 30 games with 320m and Intel 3000HD used in MBP 13", and the 13" could play less than the 320m ones. Why do I keep up bringing games as GPU comparisons? Because as my lack of knowledge shows, games are the ones that stress the most out of GPUs in my usage.
bucho
Nov 3, 09:14 AM
Where's my email? :(
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sixth
Nov 3, 07:33 PM
Dont count Parallels out. They will eventually have multicore support in their app, and i am sure will keep getting better over time.
MacQuest
Oct 18, 06:34 PM
As always, the iPod is Apple's real cash cow.
Too bad for those of us who wish they would divert a little more of their attention to their computer line..
Yeah. Gawd knows Apple hasn't done a thing with it's Mac line-up this year. :rolleyes:
Wow, amazing how emotional people always get whenever I make a statement that could sound slightly anti-iPod... I know you love your iPod and all (I am very fond of mine myself), but over the last few years Apple has been focusing a dispropotional amount of energy into their cute little gadget which has massively boosted their profits. For those of us that don't salivate over all things iPod, I think this is too bad.
That is all.
Do you even understand yourself?
You're first comment was more anti-Mac than anti-iPod.
Count the amount of things Apple has done to it's Mac line-up this year compared to it's iPod line-up, and then come back and tell us that Apple hasn't focused on it's computers this year WAY more than the iPod line-up.
Think before you post.
Es todo.
Too bad for those of us who wish they would divert a little more of their attention to their computer line..
Yeah. Gawd knows Apple hasn't done a thing with it's Mac line-up this year. :rolleyes:
Wow, amazing how emotional people always get whenever I make a statement that could sound slightly anti-iPod... I know you love your iPod and all (I am very fond of mine myself), but over the last few years Apple has been focusing a dispropotional amount of energy into their cute little gadget which has massively boosted their profits. For those of us that don't salivate over all things iPod, I think this is too bad.
That is all.
Do you even understand yourself?
You're first comment was more anti-Mac than anti-iPod.
Count the amount of things Apple has done to it's Mac line-up this year compared to it's iPod line-up, and then come back and tell us that Apple hasn't focused on it's computers this year WAY more than the iPod line-up.
Think before you post.
Es todo.
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mattcube64
Jan 30, 04:15 PM
Been wanting a new TV for a while; and happened upon either an insanely good deal or a pricing error... in any case, managed to snag this 40" Samsung 1080p LCD for $328 at Walmart. My girlfriend picked one up, too, so we have a matching set. :p Certainly far from the nicest set on the market; but that just gives me an excuse to upgrade sooner rather than later. ;)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5298/5402604594_298bd68093_b.jpg
And here is a picture of the iMacQuarium all set up!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5402614044_1403d26b90_b.jpg
... freaking awesome, if I do say so myself.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5298/5402604594_298bd68093_b.jpg
And here is a picture of the iMacQuarium all set up!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5402614044_1403d26b90_b.jpg
... freaking awesome, if I do say so myself.
ucfgrad93
Apr 26, 02:43 PM
^^^^ You didn't bold it so it is not an official vote.
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bushido
Apr 22, 04:58 PM
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you people floor me.... I bet if I could take an iPhone back to 2005 and show you people, you'd all scream "WTF! What a piece of ****! Anything different hurts my eyes! I want my Razor back!!!!1111!!!11" :rolleyes:
What is funny is remembering the outcry on the early leaked pictures on the iPhone 4 and how ugly it was... Yet it is the best looking phone in the world now.
nah there r better looking HTC out there by now, the new one they got (forgot its name) with the slide out keyboard is pure sex ^^
you people floor me.... I bet if I could take an iPhone back to 2005 and show you people, you'd all scream "WTF! What a piece of ****! Anything different hurts my eyes! I want my Razor back!!!!1111!!!11" :rolleyes:
What is funny is remembering the outcry on the early leaked pictures on the iPhone 4 and how ugly it was... Yet it is the best looking phone in the world now.
nah there r better looking HTC out there by now, the new one they got (forgot its name) with the slide out keyboard is pure sex ^^
godknows
Apr 25, 11:42 AM
iMac with thunderbolt! (but I want macbook / macbook pro with hi-res screen more)
No. It will just start shipping with Lion.
Btw, do Apple usually give free updates to customers who bought the computer a time period (say 2 months) before new OS release?
No. It will just start shipping with Lion.
Btw, do Apple usually give free updates to customers who bought the computer a time period (say 2 months) before new OS release?
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dethmaShine
Apr 25, 11:28 AM
Anyone want's to buy off of me? 27" base model; UK [hardly used; applecare until late 2013] for �1250. :|
Anyone?
Anyone?
GilGrissom
Jul 25, 10:27 AM
This is great but I do have a question..
Since it's bluetooth and Apple says it works within 30 ft.What happens if you're in a starbucks and other people have bluetooth turned on ?
Will they be able to "hack" your Mighty Mouse?
I pressume it's no different from every other bluetooth device, other bluetooth mice, mobile phones, headsets etc etc.
There is bound to be a way, but not common place. The usual code pairing should do the trick like every other Tom, Dick and Harry (or even Alvin, Simon and Theodore!) BT device.
Since it's bluetooth and Apple says it works within 30 ft.What happens if you're in a starbucks and other people have bluetooth turned on ?
Will they be able to "hack" your Mighty Mouse?
I pressume it's no different from every other bluetooth device, other bluetooth mice, mobile phones, headsets etc etc.
There is bound to be a way, but not common place. The usual code pairing should do the trick like every other Tom, Dick and Harry (or even Alvin, Simon and Theodore!) BT device.
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manu chao
Apr 28, 05:50 PM
That ones not really too accurate due to the camera angle...its on a slope.
Also just run this through myself.
I get 79.2 on the White iPhone and 78.9 on the black. Given that I also had to level the image that sounds about right. Theres no way you can call your or my results accurate from a wonky photo however as photoshop attempts to enhance an image when rotating to level, thus distorting the original.
Which would make the it 0.035 mm thicker or 35 micron.
Also just run this through myself.
I get 79.2 on the White iPhone and 78.9 on the black. Given that I also had to level the image that sounds about right. Theres no way you can call your or my results accurate from a wonky photo however as photoshop attempts to enhance an image when rotating to level, thus distorting the original.
Which would make the it 0.035 mm thicker or 35 micron.
bakerzdosen
Apr 13, 07:39 PM
Agreed. Who in their right mind would buy this? I don't care when the iPhone 5 comes out - I've stuck with my 3g for this long, I'm not going to cave now and get an iPhone 4 - even if it is white. It's all about contracts. If I'm going to be stuck with something for 2 years, it had better be the best available at the time of purchase.
Personally, although I really like Apple, I hope that iPhone 4 sales tank in the next month or two. 1 year and 3 months is too long to have the iPhone 4 be your flagship phone product - especially when you don't communicate it to your customers. But, knowing my luck, sales will take off when they don't announce anything in June. :(
Personally, although I really like Apple, I hope that iPhone 4 sales tank in the next month or two. 1 year and 3 months is too long to have the iPhone 4 be your flagship phone product - especially when you don't communicate it to your customers. But, knowing my luck, sales will take off when they don't announce anything in June. :(
tigress666
May 2, 02:21 AM
my fear is the democrats will try to use this a political gain and that is so very wrong both to the military and for this good event.
It turns a great event into worthless BS. It was just luck of the draw that a Dem was in power when this happen and it was only a matter of time. I already am watching some people try to turn it into political gain and it makes me sick.
Oh, like Bush didn't use 9/11 to get all of what he wanted done? 9/11 was a gift to Bush and he fully used it to full effect. If I were into crazy conspiracies I'd believe the rumor that he knew it was going to happen and did nothing. I mean after all it was a great way of encouraging us to get to Iraq where he really wanted to be (Funny how he quickly shifted his focus to Iraq). And also do stuff like introduce the Patriot Act all in the name of protecting us from the terrorists. Great, who is protecting us from our government and our own stupidity for letting the government do whatever they wanted in the name of protecting us from the terrorists (warrantless wiretapping anyone)? The terrorists won, we did exactly what they were hoping for.
So now I gotta ask, now that we got him do we still have to be in the middle east? I thought that was the whole reason why we were in there in the first place. Secondly, can we get rid of the patriot act now and go back to wiretapping being illegal if you don't have a warrant?
Oh wait, once government gets power over something, good luck taking it away. I just want to slap the Republicans now complaining about the powers given to the government from when they were in power now that the opposition is in power (what, did they expect that the government would only have those powers when the people they liked were in power? Though I'm betting they always thought the people they liked would be in control. And yes, I've seen people who were telling me why was I worried about warrantless wiretapping if I had nothing to hide and the government was only trying to protect us from the terrorists who then got all paranoid about what the government was doing once Obama came into power).
ALL OF THEM will use this as validation or some type of proof that we need to "stay the course" on our un-winnable wars.
If anything this will have just made our foreign policy situation worse. Get ready for the blowback, because this event definitely pissed off some extremists.
Yep.
This solves nothing. What would really solve something is getting to the roots of why they hate the US so much or why many of them are so easily manipulated into thinking we are the enemy.
I'm not sure stuffing a corpse with candy is very hygienic. ;)
Seriously, though, we're going to treat him like Hector? Like he was some great hero worthy of our wrath and opprobrium?
I disagree, we should wrap him in an army blanket and bury Bin Laden in an unmarked grave; the man's had enough celebrity already.
Agreed. I think that this is a much better way of treating him. It's far more insulting to just not even give him the dignity of a marked grave but treat him as a total nobody.
It turns a great event into worthless BS. It was just luck of the draw that a Dem was in power when this happen and it was only a matter of time. I already am watching some people try to turn it into political gain and it makes me sick.
Oh, like Bush didn't use 9/11 to get all of what he wanted done? 9/11 was a gift to Bush and he fully used it to full effect. If I were into crazy conspiracies I'd believe the rumor that he knew it was going to happen and did nothing. I mean after all it was a great way of encouraging us to get to Iraq where he really wanted to be (Funny how he quickly shifted his focus to Iraq). And also do stuff like introduce the Patriot Act all in the name of protecting us from the terrorists. Great, who is protecting us from our government and our own stupidity for letting the government do whatever they wanted in the name of protecting us from the terrorists (warrantless wiretapping anyone)? The terrorists won, we did exactly what they were hoping for.
So now I gotta ask, now that we got him do we still have to be in the middle east? I thought that was the whole reason why we were in there in the first place. Secondly, can we get rid of the patriot act now and go back to wiretapping being illegal if you don't have a warrant?
Oh wait, once government gets power over something, good luck taking it away. I just want to slap the Republicans now complaining about the powers given to the government from when they were in power now that the opposition is in power (what, did they expect that the government would only have those powers when the people they liked were in power? Though I'm betting they always thought the people they liked would be in control. And yes, I've seen people who were telling me why was I worried about warrantless wiretapping if I had nothing to hide and the government was only trying to protect us from the terrorists who then got all paranoid about what the government was doing once Obama came into power).
ALL OF THEM will use this as validation or some type of proof that we need to "stay the course" on our un-winnable wars.
If anything this will have just made our foreign policy situation worse. Get ready for the blowback, because this event definitely pissed off some extremists.
Yep.
This solves nothing. What would really solve something is getting to the roots of why they hate the US so much or why many of them are so easily manipulated into thinking we are the enemy.
I'm not sure stuffing a corpse with candy is very hygienic. ;)
Seriously, though, we're going to treat him like Hector? Like he was some great hero worthy of our wrath and opprobrium?
I disagree, we should wrap him in an army blanket and bury Bin Laden in an unmarked grave; the man's had enough celebrity already.
Agreed. I think that this is a much better way of treating him. It's far more insulting to just not even give him the dignity of a marked grave but treat him as a total nobody.
joephish
May 4, 02:17 PM
Hmm, I used to spend a lot of time waiting for Apple products to come out by checking the MacRumors buyers guides etc. Then I was stung when I got it all wrong and bought an iBook just before they were updated, despite trying really hard for that not to happen!
My conclusion, don't listen to vague rumours and wait around for ages! Buy if you want it now, unless there's almost certain evidence that an upgrade is imminent :-)
My conclusion, don't listen to vague rumours and wait around for ages! Buy if you want it now, unless there's almost certain evidence that an upgrade is imminent :-)
jessica.
Feb 1, 08:03 AM
What a team player.
300 people sitting on their hands, while he 'plays'.
Charming.
Oddly, I agree with you.
I'm not sure I'd see this guy as my idol, not even a little.
Sure, maybe one night where you just get some sort of pass but do you really watch a dirty bitch with **** up your nose and a car you're too wasted to drive?
300 people sitting on their hands, while he 'plays'.
Charming.
Oddly, I agree with you.
I'm not sure I'd see this guy as my idol, not even a little.
Sure, maybe one night where you just get some sort of pass but do you really watch a dirty bitch with **** up your nose and a car you're too wasted to drive?
gorgeousninja
Apr 28, 05:40 PM
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Aaaarrrrggggghhhhhhhh!! The white iPhone is slightly thicker than the black one... Heeeelllllllllpppppppp....we're all dooooommmmmed!!!!!!
Aaaarrrrggggghhhhhhhh!! The white iPhone is slightly thicker than the black one... Heeeelllllllllpppppppp....we're all dooooommmmmed!!!!!!
The Maestro
Oct 24, 09:02 AM
my order says
'Allow 4 days to build your order.
Allow 3 - 7 business days for delivery. '
in regards to shipping times
'Allow 4 days to build your order.
Allow 3 - 7 business days for delivery. '
in regards to shipping times
dethmaShine
Apr 13, 11:08 AM
Cool what down ? Are you proposing my post was made out of anger ? Written text has no emotionality.
Then it has no meaning.
Honestly, that's a very stupid thing you said.
It is possible indeed, hence why I'm asking for citations to what someone posted as fact, rather than as a possibility. Citation to support the fact still has not been provided.
He did provide citation for the same; the engadget article.
But due to its inception being an Engadget based article, I wouldn't base any conclusions on that.
But yes, he did cite the argument.
Then it has no meaning.
Honestly, that's a very stupid thing you said.
It is possible indeed, hence why I'm asking for citations to what someone posted as fact, rather than as a possibility. Citation to support the fact still has not been provided.
He did provide citation for the same; the engadget article.
But due to its inception being an Engadget based article, I wouldn't base any conclusions on that.
But yes, he did cite the argument.
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